On Feb 10, 2008 12:28 PM, Jaroslaw Gorny <jaroslav@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:32:51 -0900 > "Jeff Spaleta" <jspaleta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > It's absolutely possible for someone to build the > > bits so that livna rpm packages are part of the choices once > > livna-release package is installed. > > How could that be? Now it is not legal even to display a message > like: > "If you are outside US, you can use packages from livna.org" > So, would it be legal to point users to livna RPMS with an offer to > install? You quoted the statement that answers this, maybe I didn't say it loud enough.... ONCE THE LIVNA RELEASE PACKAGE IS INSTALLED I did not say... by default. Look here's the deal. We can't tell people go to livna for this or that package. But it seems like we do have the ability to tell people that livna exists.. if we do not abuse that ability by pointing to livna for specific things. So how exactly do we leverage that general reference ability for user's benefit? Codeina! 1)We can tell users, check out livna/rpmfusion for additional software..but we do not say what functionality that software covers 2)they check out livna, they install livna-release package. 3)livna release package dumps some codeina configs on the user's system to register livna as a vendor for specific filetypes. 4)user uses a gstreamer-based app, tries to open a file they don't have support for, gstreamer pops up codeina and shows the livna offerings. 5).... 6)profit We can fix codeina to make steps 3 and 4 technically possible for multiple 'vendors'..livna among them. And if we do it right, step 4 can even work with the packaging system so users, through policykit interaction, can install the livna rpms systemwide instead of just a per user plugin. Yes, the first attempt to put just-in-time codec detection into the distro wasn't great. But it's not fundamentally broken as a concept. What I need...what the board needs...what the Fedora community needs... are people who are willing to do the technical work make steps 3 and 4 and work on the integration issues. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list