Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: [...] > I believe the CentOS team has made some effort to isolate/generalize > the 'rebranding' work they have to do. It might be easy to replace > with fedora's even if they aren't interested in converging. Fedora and RHEL have done the work, mostly. [...] > Going this direction will probably emphasize the already-existing need > for an additional/optional variation of an EPEL-like repo that has > newer replacement apps for RHEL/Centos. These are separate but equal > needs. That is, some situations will require/prefer the frozen > versions and feature set of the enterprise distro, but many, perhaps > most, would really like to have a current firefox and openoffice > without replacing their kernel and device drivers on working systems. Others are talking exactly the opposite: Keep all userland the same, but make it work on new machines/take advantage of new hardware. > The scheme that would make sense to me would be to make the update > switch to 'stable mode' at end of life by default, retaining the app > versions supported in the enterprise disto since this takes > essentially no extra effort, Nonsense. The versions in Fedora have by then drifted far from the "enterprise distro". And keeping them up to date is /hard/ (that is what people are paying for RHEL, essentially). > and concentrate new volunteer effort on > building current 'fedora-version' apps that could optionally be > installed over the enterprise base. And said new versions require new infrastructure (new libc, new Gnome, new X, ...; yes, ABIs /do/ change without you being aware), and are built to different environments (font/icon/... files are now elsewhere, new SELinux layout, configuration conventions have changed, ...). > If the latter effort fails, > you've still got a solid, working version. If you want "solid, working", why are you messing around with "bleeding-edge apps"?! -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 2654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 2654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 2797513 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list