On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 09:16 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Jan 23, 2008 6:30 AM, David Mansfield <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Fair enough. I wasn't aware of the commercial aspect of the Ubuntu LTS > > and that is important to understand. > > > > > Just to be sure, though, your thesis argument is: community supported > > software can do many things (ie. invent a kernel, reverse engineer usb > > cameras etc), but community can not support an operating system for 2 > > years? I think that people are falling back on the 'fedora legacy > > failed' argument, but I don't think it applies. > > I would not say 'cannot'. I would say 'unwilling to'. This community > is unwilling to devote enough effort to sustain an additional longer > term branch. Well, what seem to missing: There are folks outside who believe to be able to maintain EPEL - I'd agree with you that they won't be able to provide the same quality as RH intends to do, esp. when RHEL will be heading towards their EOLs. Also: There had repeatedly expressed interest of volunteers to contribute to something like a Fedora LTS. Further: IMO, fedora legacy did not fail. It was discontinued by management, because it collided the certain business interests. Anyway, meanwhile, the "Fedora world" has changed. Technically, launching a Fedora LTS would not require uch more than introducing a community-accessible branch (formerly known as Fedora X) in CVS and to keep the buildsystem alive. > I have absolutely no problem with another attempt at community effort > as a follow-up to what Legacy did. I just don't think its where this > community of contributors wants to contribute. I disagree, c.f. above. In worst case, a Fedora LTS would end up as a rotten, broken, unstable distro, once having been "Fedora X". I don't see how this would be a regression of a discontinued "Fedora X". > I do not like this proposal. In fact I loath it. Why? because it > delibrately takes focus away from the 'shallow' dev cycles. If you're serious about this, you're probably better off to discontinue EPEL, because it "sucks off users" from Fedora. Ralf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list