On 09.01.2008 21:58, Adam Jackson wrote: >> Linux is about choice. > [...] > The complaints up-thread about juju and pulse are entirely valid, but > the solution is not to try to deliver two things at once. I agree with most of the things you said. In a ideal world there would be no reason for some of the choices like juju or not. Juju afaics solves a lot of problems and I agree that it's the way forward. But we don't live in a ideal world and when we started shipping juju it was not capable to do some things that were possible with the old stack. Some things more then a handful of users wanted to do, so lot of users ran into trouble and had a hard a fight fixing it -- seems some people (including Hans afaics, who's a developer with a lot of skills) got confused/frustrated. That's bad for Fedoras reputing -- thus we should avoid that if we want to be a serious distribution and more than a beta-playground for RHEL (as that's how it feels from my point of view due to things like this). So that leaves two choices: - we could have delayed juju until F8 (or even F9) - we could have included juju in F7 (as we did) and made it optional (either enabled or disabled by default) I think the latter is the better solution and a serious option for one release. CU knurd -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
