On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 01:57 +0000, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > On 16/12/2007, Stewart Adam <s.adam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > As well, I've got 29 applications listed under 'System Tools'. I > > understand that not everyone does because it obviously depends on which > > packages you have installed, but many entries do similar tasks > > (Terminal, Konsole, Konsole Super User Mode). A lot of space could be > > saved by putting them into a submenu. > > Related to this is something that is currently driving me utterly > crazy with F-8 (not sure if this has changed in rawhide) - why do we > have > > Application->System Tools and > System->Preferences->System and > System->Administration. > > Most users will not understand the distinction (if indeed there even > is one). This is in pretty bad need of being rationalised. > > For example, one that always catches me out is the SElinux management > stuff - it used to be under System->Administration, but is now under > Applications->System Tools. Yup, it's been moved to System Tools. This is one of the reasons I mentioned submenus as an interesting solution, as under System Tools or Administration if ther was "Security" menu firewall, SELinux, and password related programs could be placed under it. I agree with what Jeff mentioned earlier, creating default for all installs is hard. Creating too many becomes redundant as well. Although grouping 5+ entries may be of value IMHO (The PulseAudio tools come to mind here as well). Stewart -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list