On 16/12/2007, Stewart Adam <s.adam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > As well, I've got 29 applications listed under 'System Tools'. I > understand that not everyone does because it obviously depends on which > packages you have installed, but many entries do similar tasks > (Terminal, Konsole, Konsole Super User Mode). A lot of space could be > saved by putting them into a submenu. Related to this is something that is currently driving me utterly crazy with F-8 (not sure if this has changed in rawhide) - why do we have Application->System Tools and System->Preferences->System and System->Administration. Most users will not understand the distinction (if indeed there even is one). This is in pretty bad need of being rationalised. For example, one that always catches me out is the SElinux management stuff - it used to be under System->Administration, but is now under Applications->System Tools. There should be one and only one entry somewhere for System Admin tools. To my mind, the first step is ridding ourselves of Applications->System tools. Where we go from that point is then a big discussion. Personally, I think the only clear distinction is the following - between all the system stuff which refers to the users desktop environment and application configurations, and system wide configuration. This distinction is more or less reflected in the split between System->Preferences and System->Administration respectively. They're not great names though. Jonathan. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list