On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 08:27 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 9/12/07, Bill Crawford <billcrawford1970@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 12/09/2007, Richi Plana <myfedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Hans, how about this for an idea: re-write the > > > gstreamer-plugins-bad.spec so that it puts the various plugins in > > > separate packages and make gstreamer-plugins-bad a virtual package that > > > Requires all of the plugins to pull them in? > > > > +2 > > -100 > > The discussion on how gstreamer's source codebase needs to be > happening with gstreamer upstream. if gstreamer upstream continues to > aggregate, splitting modules out one by one is guaranteed to be a > fragile exercise of frustration. If it makes sense for the users of > distributions to consume the modules as separate packages then it > makes just as much sense for the gstreamer upstream to treat the > modules as separate codebases so the entire gstreamer > user/developer/tester base can consume them piecemeal as well. No, the needs and requirements of upstream and that of Fedora's users do not necessarily coincide. They have a reason to package things the way they did, and believe me, it has nothing to do with what users want. They are most certainly not trying to make it hard for users, and if asked they might sometimes give in, but they have their own concerns. If asked to separate them, they will most likely say that it is the distro's or the packagers responsibility to do that. We already have several of Fedora's users asking for it, so there obviously is a demand. If someone thinks the users are being stupid, then I suggest that enlightening them and showing them the error of their ways is the correct approach. But the correct approach isn't to say that upstream always cares about the needs and requirements of their users. Most of upstream's decision are based on development or legal decisions. Sometimes the needs and wants of the users, the packagers and upstream developers sometimes coincide and THAT'S when it makes sense to go to them, but such isn't always the case. -- Richi "ah, what the heck?" Plana -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
