Manuel Wolfshant wrote: > Peter Vrabec wrote: >> >>>>>> It obsoletes sysklogd, so sysklogd in not running anymore and is >>>>>> erased >>>>>> after update. Note, that rsyslog won't start automatically. You >>>>>> need to >>>>>> do #service rsyslog start,(or restart the box). This problem >>>>>> should be >>>>>> solved by anaconda during upgrade from FC->F8. >>>>>> >>>>> What happens if I upgrade using yum? >>>>> >>>> You won't have running system log daemon until you restart the >>>> system or >>>> run service rsyslog start manually. >>>> >>> I'd say that since sysklogd is erased, rsylogd should be automatically >>> enabled and started. Yes, I know the packaging recommendations, but I >>> think that in this case an exception should be accepted. >>> >> >> I agree, but I don't know any nice and secure way we can do it. > shipping an /etc/init.d/rsyslog with default options set to enabled + > service rsyslog start in %post is not OK ? No, it not :-(. service rsyslog start will always start rsyslog, but we need to start rsyslog only when sysklogd run before. >> Since we replace sysklogd in rawhide and rsyslogd will be installed >> during fresh >> F8 installation I don't see this is a big problem. > You make the assumption that rawhide users will know about the > replacement and activate rsyslogd manually. I bet most of them will > blindly do yum -y update <insert your favorite other options here> and > cry afterwards. Do not assume that they are subscribed to fedora mailing > lists. Most of them are not. Or at least almost none of those I > personally know in the RLUG community, to be more correct. > -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list