Gerry Reno wrote:
Hans de Goede wrote:
...
And if we spend the time to create new iso's for that, I think it
would be a good idea to make those available to our end-users. Call
it a .0.1 release, call it a brown paper bag release (not meant in
any disrespect to DaveJ, but the kernel is kinda a brown paper bag
kernel). Eitherway if we invest time and QA to make new iso's for
this, we should make them available, as the time has already been
invested then.
I vote for doing a new spin with:
-a new kernel included (we might have to wait a bit for this new
kernel to
become available and proven)
-perhaps an updates.img included
-perhaps one or two updates for very very critical no interaction needed
network abusable security issues.
Regards,
Hans
I would second these. My initial experience with the first F7 ISOs
was very bad. It won't install on my real hardware from DVD as the
install won't recognize the drive. My second attempt was a LiveCD
which promptly bombed with a listing of block errors on sr0. Didn 't
even know I had an sr0. My third attempt was to load F7 in QEMU.
Would only work with HTTP option. Once I got it loaded it wouldn't
run with kqemu so I had to run it without acceleration and I don't
need to tell you that it isn't even usable without acceleration. My
next attempt was in Xen on a FC6 host. Setup a domain in virt mgr
pointing to a good mirror. It started anaconda and then when it got
to the partitioning screen it showed no drives or partitions available
for installation. Completely hangs the install right there. So yes,
I'm ready for something a little more tested.
my 2c,
Gerry
FWIW, the problem that I saw with F7 final was that all the great work
that had gone into F7 was overshadowed to a great degree by a lot of
installation issues. It was like having a 5-star meal served on a dirty
plate. So how about this? The general end user does not download test
releases that would help in shaking out any installation issues. They
should but they don't. So publicly release, some time prior to the
final, a Trailer, if you will, that installs exactly like the final.
Then the general user community can provide feedback as to any
installation issues they see. Everything in the Trailer installer works
the same except that at the end you see a few promotional messages
showing the new features in the release and of course the final "Coming
soon to a mirror near you" or "Opens May 31st", that kind of thing.
This way the installer can be broadly tested and any installer issues
can be identified and it would also help to build the hype for the
Fedora release. Just a fun type of thing that has some good QA benefit
attached to it.
Gerry
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