On 04.06.2007 16:30, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 15:36 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> On 03.06.2007 15:17, Jesse Keating wrote: >>> On Sunday 03 June 2007 02:48:35 Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>>> Well, see all those discussion that happened when ACLs were added, kjoi >>>> introduced, the freezes were introduced and bodi put in place. Sure, >>>> there are always discussions, but all those were quite worse and there >>>> was a lot of confusion afaics... Don't read fedora-maintainers for a >>>> week and suddenly you are not aware of how to build or push a package. >>> So without reading the mailing list for maintainers, >> A low-traffic fedora-maintainers-announce was requested multiple times >> as some contributors mentioned that fedora-maintainers is to noisy for >> them. Some Red-Hat-engineers blocked that so long and hard that people >> that wanted it got frustrated and didn't drive that idea further in the >> past months. >> >> Like it or not, but for some people fedora-maintainers has to much >> traffic; so they just skim over it and easily miss important announcements. > > The problem is that -maintainers was supposed to cut down on the traffic > from -devel.[1] But a lot of people end up posting there because they > think it'll be lower traffic and thus be seen, thus discussion ensues[2] > and then it's too much traffic. Unless that changes, an -announce list > is going to have the same problem. > > It's a sucky problem, but I really don't think more lists is the > answer :-/ Instead, better and more consistent use of our existing > lists. The proposal for the mailing list reorganisation still stands and IMHO addresses the problem by reshuffling lists a bit. The outcome is less list in total. But as I said: still waiting for new hardware. CU thl -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list