On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 15:36 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 03.06.2007 15:17, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Sunday 03 June 2007 02:48:35 Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >> Well, see all those discussion that happened when ACLs were added, kjoi > >> introduced, the freezes were introduced and bodi put in place. Sure, > >> there are always discussions, but all those were quite worse and there > >> was a lot of confusion afaics... Don't read fedora-maintainers for a > >> week and suddenly you are not aware of how to build or push a package. > > So without reading the mailing list for maintainers, > > A low-traffic fedora-maintainers-announce was requested multiple times > as some contributors mentioned that fedora-maintainers is to noisy for > them. Some Red-Hat-engineers blocked that so long and hard that people > that wanted it got frustrated and didn't drive that idea further in the > past months. > > Like it or not, but for some people fedora-maintainers has to much > traffic; so they just skim over it and easily miss important announcements. The problem is that -maintainers was supposed to cut down on the traffic from -devel.[1] But a lot of people end up posting there because they think it'll be lower traffic and thus be seen, thus discussion ensues[2] and then it's too much traffic. Unless that changes, an -announce list is going to have the same problem. It's a sucky problem, but I really don't think more lists is the answer :-/ Instead, better and more consistent use of our existing lists. Jeremy [1] Which it mostly does... [2] And some of the discussion ends up being the badly needed clarification on a change and so people would have to wade into a thread _somewhere_ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list