On 03.06.2007 15:54, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 15:36 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> On 03.06.2007 15:17, Jesse Keating wrote: >>> On Sunday 03 June 2007 02:48:35 Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>>> Well, see all those discussion that happened when ACLs were added, kjoi >>>> introduced, the freezes were introduced and bodi put in place. Sure, >>>> there are always discussions, but all those were quite worse and there >>>> was a lot of confusion afaics... Don't read fedora-maintainers for a >>>> week and suddenly you are not aware of how to build or push a package. >>> So without reading the mailing list for maintainers, >> A low-traffic fedora-maintainers-announce was requested multiple times >> as some contributors mentioned that fedora-maintainers is to noisy for >> them. > One way traffic is inappropriate for a community project. Ralf, I appreciate your opinions. But where did I say that that would mean "One way traffic"? That was and is nowhere written or meant. Just as fedora-extras-commit for example the fedora-maintainers-annouce list would have a reply to another mailing list where those that want to discuss something can discuss it. The plan was actually to subscribe fedora-maintainers to fedora-maintainers-annouce, so announcements show up on both list. >> Like it or not, but for some people fedora-maintainers has to much >> traffic; > Then they better should not be maintainers! > > This is Fedora, a wanna-be community project. Community projects live > from communication. If you want it to be success, these people will have > to leave their secret chambers and crawl into the light ;) Some community members just want to maintain their private pet-package. Those probably do not care if that much if there are two or eight steps to get a package pushed (as long as it's documented somewhere). You on the other hand do and you are right with it. But forcing maintainers to read a high-traffic mailing list just because they want to maintaining one package is likely something they care about. So let's please make package maintaining easy for them, too. > [...] CU knurd -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list