Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Things which stay in needinfo too long should get closed as > INSUFFICIENT_DATA. When a release is obsoleted, all bugs in the devel > version which were closed in the timeframe of that release could be moved to > the Fedora Pasture as well. Being a bugmaster for the desktop team, let me chime here as well -- I would actually love if the automatic closing of NEEDINFO bugs was re-established. The period after which it is closed can be pretty long (couple of months even), there may be some preliminary warning to owners of the components and the target of NEEDINFO (e.g., email saying "These bugs on the components you own will be closed in two weeks for INSUFFICIENT_DATA"), but something should be done. We have now hundreds of bugs which are NEEDINFO because somebody was trying to hide that he is too lazy to think about the particular bug. Or there are many NEEDINFOs which are actually meant as CLOSE, but they are not marked as such. Or there are NEEDINFOs which probably should be translated as NEEDINFO(God) "Give me some clue what to do with this." I have nothing against religion, but I don't think bugzilla is the right place to excercise it ;-). It should be IMNSHO re-established that NEEDINFO means, that somebody should provide information. I.e., the last comment in the bug should specifically point to somebody what specific piece of information is needed and who is to provide it. When that information is provided, NEEDINFO should be removed and the bug should be (ASAP, which depends) ASSIGNed to somebody who will take care of it. And of course, when this piece of information is not provided in reasonable time, even after some warning is given, and especially when it is NEEDINFO(reporter), it means that somebody is not willing to cooperate and it doesn't make sense to keep the bug alive. Yes, our bugzilla is IMHO in much better shape than some other ones (cough, cough, bugzilla.mozilla.org), but still I am afraid that it is not as helpful tool for developers as it could be. TODO list with hundreds of items is just useless. And last but not least, thank you Matthew for the last couple of actions you made on the cleaning up the -test* mess. It is very helpful. Best, Matej Cepl -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list