On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 19:56 -0600, Bernard Johnson wrote: > David Zeuthen wrote: > > Now, if only HP would play nicely with the open source community and > > _just_ provide only drivers instead of reinventing the wheel by > > Well, I'm sure you're just emphatic about "better software" but I think > it comes across as looking a gift horse in the mouth. I mean, what do > you want, junk the hp software and then I can have the same printing > capabilities as when I had this: > http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_3100 > > Where are your bug reports to them? Your feature requests? Have you > even interacted with the hplip guys before? No, I'm not the hplip package owner in any distribution and I just came across this when looking at doing the ACL support things in HAL for SANE. I'll probably try to talk to them, I was just shocked we actually ship these bits. > > - Not only that; starting this daemon is completely useless unless you > > have HP hardware. We still start it for everyone so everyone have > > to suffer. That's bad. > > and so is: > smartd when I don't have a smartd drive > bluethooth when I don't have bluetooth > etc Two wrongs don't make a right (and, FWIW, I'm actually interacting with the Bluez guys to make HAL start/stop the bluetooth daemons). > It's nice to sit in your tower and throw rocks, but end then end, some > of us work with these products and are held accountable for things > working or not, no matter what political or idealogical happenings go on > at Fedora/Red Hat. I think I said already these are my personal points of view and that I wasn't speaking for Red Hat and obviously not Fedora. So I'm a bit unhappy to see you attribute these points of view to Fedora/Red Hat. Please don't do that. Thanks. For the record, I know plenty of Fedora people (both inside and outside of Red Hat) who, like you, are satisfied (and even excited) about the status quo. Go figure. David -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list