On 12/10/06, nodata <lsof@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[snip] > > Indisputable and I'm very glad that you raised the issue. > > > 1. The GUI > > pup and pirut are pretty good programs but they are in some ways, a bit > > restricting. (for lack of a better word). I think that they should have [snip] > > I used these GUI tools for the first time this weekend and was very > surprised to see how weak they are. [snip] I couldn't disagree more. Surely these GUI tools are aimed at people who don't care how big something is, or what dependencies something has, or any of that. Aren't they aimed at people who just "want to install a piece of software"? Don't lets turn a simple tool for adding software into something for people who already know about dependencies - those people can use the ever powerful command-line for that, or another tool.
I have to say, I agree with you. I've never used pirut except in Anaconda myself, and it seems to me that the GUI is for exactly the purpose you stated. I would hope these tools are even easier to use than _anything_ that exists on Windows - Maybe I should give them a try. Besides, there is already Yumex, and KYum, right?
On a side note, I think even pup is overblown:
On that note, when do we KDE peeps get KYum?
A popup appears telling a user they have new updates? Why do they need to know?
If it didn't it would be malware.
They click "Show updates". The list refreshes and they are shown the list of updates. Why do they need to know?
Again, yes...if not it would be malware.
They click apply updates, and a progress bar stays on screen showing the download. Why?
Can the screen be hidden till completion?
The downloads finish and install, the user is notified again. Why?
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