Even though today's messages started out with "@everything has been argued to death in the archives", it seems like the time for comments is still open- I have been a heavy user of (@)everything, (@)minimal, and kickstart for many years. Before throwing my opinions in the ring, I have one simple question- Is the globs(*) for package selection in kickstart documented anywhere (yet)? My question is, is that going to be as sufficiently smart as the old/current-but-deprecated @everything, as far as silently dropping those packages that have exclusional anti-dependencies? (picking the 'preferred default') Even if so (which I could just check by doing an install), I would throw in my opinion as being precisely one of those users that would like to do a non-kickstart everything install, just to have all the available core (on media) packages installed, including a hundred languages I would never use. Because yes, disk space is cheap. Not because I was worried about dependencies. I.e. I was using what the rh/fedora core decision makers decided to decide what I wanted to install. Nothing new here, but FYI, another person like that exists and appreciated the ability to do that (even in the non-kickstart case). It was always fun to do an everything install, and then just sit down in front of a fully populated gnome/redhat main menu and start trying all the new toys, whose package names would never have even clued me in as to what they do. Now, on to @minimal (dunno if that still exists). I used to generate livecd's from mandrake back when their @minimal yielded ~300MB. I was building appliance livecd's that even stripped some more files, getting it compressed down to 135M (fits on a 3" cdr, with X+windowmaker+mozilla+xmms). So @minimal was very useful for me, and as I'm now trying to do the same sorts of things with fedora, I would hope it still exists, though have been psyching up for having to more or less do lots of manual deinstallations as I figure out what packages aren't _really_ necessary (which I had to do anyway with the mandrake @minimal, to _really_ shave the install size down). Of course, now my target is looking more like a 3" 1.8G dvd, but still... I liked @minimal. a lot. I hope it lives. -jdog __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
