Re: Fedora's way forward

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Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On 3/31/06, Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede@xxxxxx> wrote:
We should provide a mechanism where if a user tries to play an
unsupported format, we look up the format in an ondisk (no phoning home
please) tabel and see if there is a gratis and legal (even in the
states!) downloadable codec in the tabel, if there is such a beast, then
_help_ the user install it.

Why should media formts be singled out for this special treatment?

Because we cannot offer _free_ replacements like we do for most other application wishes people might have because of the patent mess!

Another take on this, I'm a big fan of free software because of the
freedom it gives me, thats what this is all about isn't it, freedom!
Doesn't that include the freedom to use proprietary software when I want
to?

Sure... go ahead and google for whatever proprietary software you want
and install what you find.  I really don't see why proprietary media
formasts should get special treatment of the vast space of proprietary
software you have the freedom to attempt to install and use.

See above.

It seems that there are people here who would like to even forbid
the use of proprietary software if they could and since then can't they
atleast want to make it as hard to use as possible, this is BAD as it
hurts other peoples freedom!

Cut the hyperbole. There is a big difference between actively making
it harder and not spending time on it because there is other more
worthwhile things to do which actually feedback into open development.

Nobody is asking anybody to spend time on it there are some people (Me, ESR) who are willing to spend time on this (for patent encumbered widely used media formats, see above). The problem is that before I start spending time on this I want to have a certain amount of assurance that if I come up with a nice and legal and 100% _free_ auto codec downloader for this it has a descent chance of getting included into Fedora. Heck even this discussion is taking way to much time, time I'd rather spent fixing dia and unorphaning it.

Regards,

Hans

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