On 11/7/05, Richard Hughes <hughsient@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > So a small non-gui, shellscriptable version of g-p-m would do the trick? It might do the trick... I don't screw around with things like mythtv setups so I don't know specifically what those sort of dedicated boxes would need at a minimum. Want you want to avoid is having non-desktop users having to re-invent the whole stack. Clearly dedicated usage like HTPC systems will need to re-invent UI elements that integrate with that non-desktop UI.. but the deeper bits that interact dbus and hal you'd want as a reusable codebase that people can layer other UI over. A deamon that runs with or without X, and uses some systemwide settings would seem to be the bare minimum. Above that, having a cli/scriptable tool to change the system wide settings would be a plus, or enough documentation about available settings to make using gconftool reasonably straight forward after some reading. Above that a library interface that anyone could hook into via their narrowly purposed user interface... I think HTPC would probably be an example that would benefit from a library interface...instead of hacking up a cli script solution underneath their non-desktop ui. Essentially... there needs to be a way to provide "traditional" systemwide configuration similar to what /etc/acpi attempted to do, that does not conflict with the g-p-m that may get started with a user logins in. And of course you'd like any solution here to leverage hal and dbus (a reason why just letting acpid be the default solution isn't the best long term option) This "traditional" systemwide model will run until the "desktop" g-p-m is started and you transition to a per-user management scenario. The key idea here is that power management is a "from bootup" issue, not a "from login" issue and there needs to be a way to make some set of defaults active from the moment the system boots up and continue to be active even if the per user g-m-p never starts. -jef > > Can you jump on the g-p-m m/l [1] and I'll see what I can do: I'm on the list now. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list