On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 10:20 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le lundi 07 novembre 2005 à 09:04 +0000, Richard Hughes a écrit : > > On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 09:30 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > Le dimanche 06 novembre 2005 à 23:13 +0000, Richard Hughes a écrit : > > > > > > > I'm not sure the "without X" argument is that important (flame retardant > > > > suit ON..) as the typical laptop isn't booting for very long. If we load > > > > a headless g-p-m when gdm loads, then we have 99.999% of the time > > > > covered. > > > > > > Good power management is very important for set-top like HTPC boxes, > > > where you may have a GUI running but it's certainly not the Gnome one > > > (ie it's a desktop-less setup) > > > So you're cutting yourself from new market segments, not only old ones. > > > > So you would be using gnome-power-manager and gnome-power-preferences on > > a set top box? Would you use NetworkManager also? STB's are a very > > specialised niche, not something that gnome-power-manager is focused on. > > If you put all the "niches" you've decided to ignore together that's a > sizeable part of the market. Moreover this "niche" is very concerned > about power management, much more than your average desktop user, > because HTPCs are supposed to be always-on, at worst hibernating. But do they run HAL, GNOME, glib, gconf and all the required deps for all of these? > > There's nothing wrong with creating a stripped down g-p-m (to interact > > with HAL) as an optional initscript. But I really don't think this is > > required -- feel free to jump on the g-p-m m/l if you require this > > functionality. > > I personaly don't. But if you've ever jumped on a HTPC forum, I doubt > you could miss the long threads about Cool'n Quiet vs Mobile intel, best > ways to control system fans, etc. I'm guessing the way to do this would be to write a *very small* daemon in pure C to control these devices directly. This is not what g-p-m was envisioned to do -- it should work on a modern GUI on top of HAL. > Actually I'm astonished you choose to ignore HTPCs. If someone is going > to sort power management on desktop systems that's HTPC users. And even > it's a niche it's a growing one - much like sound-card enabled PCs where > one a niche and are now the norm. I don't see the parallel. I've not had one user of a HTPC wanting to use g-p-m (that I know about) as it's designed primarily for laptops and PC's. Richard. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
