On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 4:44 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 09:07:33AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > "Karma: Is the update generally functional?" > > > > The word "karma" is adding no value here, it is mere word clutter > > and could be trivially removed. > > You describe the use of the word from the perspective of newcomers. > But I think this misses an important function of the term: it has a > very precise meaning for people who are permanent contributors. > If I say "the update had negative karma", everybody knows _exactly_ what > this means. Once we replace "karma" by an immediately-understood but > generic term, we'll need to clarify _those_ uses. > Exactly. We're also talking about offense that I don't think is actually there. I certainly wasn't offended at the usage of the term, I thought it was quite apt. The karma is the sum of the positive and negative from the testers, and if it's more positive than negative, it can land. It's pretty easy to understand, and being a unique word means it only needs to be explained once. Moreover, there's no overload since the term is only used in *one* context. Every other suggestion is used in multiple contexts in Fedora, which makes it difficult to succinctly state in a way that everyone will grasp. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue