On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 11:25:40AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 11:58:39AM +0100, Lukas Ruzicka wrote:
> > Well, I am very sad about this step and I feel very sorry that you are
> > trying to remove the word karma from the process. I believe that Karma
> > denotes one of the most powerful, the most noble, and the most fair
> > principles of this world, because traditionally it is above this world.
>
> I think this is _why_ we should change it. We don't mean _any_ of that. We
> mean "does this package update look good, or does it have bugs that should
> block its release". Our use trivializes the term.
>
> I think "update feedback" is perfectly clear and more descriptive.
Agreed, my guiding principal is apps should "tell it like it is".
IOW, use descriptive terms, avoid cute analogies.
We can already see that our use of the word "karma" as an analogy
for update feedback is flawed.
For example, right next to the word "karma" at the bottom of the
comment form, we have to put descriptive text telling users what
we actually want from them:
"Karma: Is the update generally functional?"
The word "karma" is adding no value here, it is mere word clutter
and could be trivially removed.
Then against each comment we have a summary line saying
"joeuser provided feedback 20 hours ago 👍 karma"
the thumbs up / thumbs down symbol in this line is telling users
what actually matters. The word "karma" here is adding no value,
it is again useless word clutter.
There are many other instances across Bohdi, but there are viable
alternatives throughout which would end up being more descriptive.
IOW, whether or not "karma" is an acceptable term to use is ultimately
a distraction. More fundamentally it is a poor choice of term from a
descriptive POV, and we'll end up improving bodhi for users overall
by replacing it.
With regards,
Daniel
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