On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 5:19 PM Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-10-17 at 22:07 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > I've now tested and basic graphics mode works OK on UEFI and BIOS on > > > > both GNOME and KDE with a recent F41 image, so that's good. It uses > > > > Wayland in all cases so no X drivers involved. The other case I'm > > > > concerned about is doing a basic graphics install of Fedora 39, and > > > > upgrading. I'll try to test that later. > > > > > > I do not think removing the basic fallback driver for X11 because "hey, > > > Wayland works" is acceptable. > > > > It's not the only basic fallback for X11, the modesetting driver is > > the primary fallback driver and that will also use the simpledrm > > driver which is designed as a generic driver that replaces both the > > vesa driver and the fbdev driver. So it's not removing any > > functionality at all, and anything that's not working in the fallback > > path with the modesetting+simpledrm drivers is a bug, not removal of > > functionality. > > Well, IIRC the path we're not sure about is just booting with > 'nomodeset' on X to trigger a "basic graphics" boot, which would > previously use vesa driver but now may not work. There is a way to get > a "Basic graphics" boot on X with the stuff we have now, but it's not > (AIUI) just passing 'nomodeset', which is what the "Basic graphics > mode" entries on our media do. > > If F39 already used Wayland with nomodeset, we're probably safe as far > as release blocking goes, but there's probably *somebody* out there > whose system is still set up to use X.org with 'nomodeset' on the > cmdline and this will probably break them? It would if "nomodeset" actually turned off KMS, which it no longer does thanks to SimpleDRM. So the X server should still function with the modesetting driver in this case. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
