Re: Removal of vesa and fbdev X.org drivers from Rawhide and Fedora 41

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On Thu, 2024-10-17 at 22:07 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > > I've now tested and basic graphics mode works OK on UEFI and BIOS on
> > > both GNOME and KDE with a recent F41 image, so that's good. It uses
> > > Wayland in all cases so no X drivers involved. The other case I'm
> > > concerned about is doing a basic graphics install of Fedora 39, and
> > > upgrading. I'll try to test that later.
> > 
> > I do not think removing the basic fallback driver for X11 because "hey,
> > Wayland works" is acceptable.
> 
> It's not the only basic fallback for X11, the modesetting driver is
> the primary fallback driver and that will also use the simpledrm
> driver which is designed as a generic driver that replaces both the
> vesa driver and the fbdev driver. So it's not removing any
> functionality at all, and anything that's not working in the fallback
> path with the modesetting+simpledrm drivers is a bug, not removal of
> functionality.

Well, IIRC the path we're not sure about is just booting with
'nomodeset' on X to trigger a "basic graphics" boot, which would
previously use vesa driver but now may not work. There is a way to get
a "Basic graphics" boot on X with the stuff we have now, but it's not
(AIUI) just passing 'nomodeset', which is what the "Basic graphics
mode" entries on our media do.

If F39 already used Wayland with nomodeset, we're probably safe as far
as release blocking goes, but there's probably *somebody* out there
whose system is still set up to use X.org with 'nomodeset' on the
cmdline and this will probably break them?
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