Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

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Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> I am not making any such assumputions. Let me be clear (and speaking
> only for myself):
> 
> Changes are not always good
> Not every unacceptable/rejected change can be reworked to be acceptable.
> 
> Where did I say otherwise?

The "Not every unacceptable/rejected change can be reworked to be 
acceptable." part is not the impression I get when I read your paragraph:

> The approved/second/reworked version of this _did_ take lots of people's
> concerns into account.

So "lots of people's concerns" were "take[n] into account". That does not 
imply though that this is sufficient to fix the issues with the proposal, as 
you are implicitly implying here. This is where I first got the impression 
that you are assuming that it is always possible to rework a Change to make 
it acceptable.

> There were/are still some few people who still didn't like it for whatever
> reasons, but I think it's pretty clear that concerns were defintely heard.

That goes even father, implying that it is OK to ignore the objections of 
"some few people". There is also no evidence that the people still objecting 
are few, for that matter.

> The change owners were very patient and responded to tons of people.

Again, responding does not imply that they even changed the proposal as a 
response (as opposed to trying to explain the issues away, as happens so 
often), let alone that the changes were sufficient to fix the issues in it.

> You cannot sometimes please everyone.

And that again implies that it is OK to trample over the objections of other 
people and force through controversial changes.

        Kevin Kofler

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