Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote: > I just can't agree with this statement---both in some deep philosophical > sense and in practical terms. F is for First! Yes, the changes are > sometimes annoying---I miss my FreeCAD :(---but, overall, I think Fedora > has a track record of consistently advancing technology. To you and everyone else who has brought up the "First" objective: Please keep in mind that "First" is only ONE of the four 'F's. I strongly object to making "First" the one priority at the expense of the other three 'F's. I believe there is also a deep misunderstanding in large parts of the community about the meaning of "First": "First" means that Fedora should offer the latest software. It does NOT mean that Fedora should remove older applications and/or the compatibility libraries they require at the first perceived occasion. In fact, I also believe that dropping support for compatibility libraries/interpreters/… and removing the applications that require them goes against ALL THREE of the other 'F's: * Freedom, because of "Freedom Zero", "The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose" [https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html.en]. Removing needed compatibility libraries makes it a lot harder for the users to exercise that basic freedom. * Features, because every application you remove is a major feature loss for the distribution. To me, "Features" implies that we should strive to ship as much software in Fedora as possible, even if it is old, unmaintained, and dependent on legacy (i.e., also unmaintained) libraries or interpreters. * Friends, because removing the applications users need will definitely not make you any friends. As for Changes that are not about shipping any new software at all, but just about doing things differently, I do not see how those even fall under "First" to begin with. Kevin Kofler -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue