Re: The future Fedora Copr "rolling" chroot cleanup policy

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Thank you for the reply, Kevin.

On úterý 16. července 2024 3:34:06, SELČ Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> > This is a gentle heads-up (at least a year in advance) that we plan to
> > address Fedora Copr storage consumption related to Fedora Rawhide
> > builds.  Currently, Rawhide build results are kept indefinitely, but
> > this is going to change in the future.
> >
> > For the full story, see the blog post:
> > https://fedora-copr.github.io/posts/cleanup-rawhide-builds
> >
> > TL;DR: We plan to start monitoring build activity in Copr projects.
> > If no builds appear for a long time in these "rolling" chroots (such as
> > Fedora Rawhide), we'll disable such chroots, preserve the built results
> > for a while, and then delete them if no action is taken by the user.
> >
> > Hope this isn't going to cause too much inconvenience.  Feel free to
> > discuss this here or under the blog post.
>
> So Copr is going even further with this broken approach of deleting user
> data to "address storage consumption". As I have already stated several
> times, deleting user data by default (on an opt-out basis) is NEVER
> acceptable.
>
> Even more so if the opt-out requires one to fight Copr's dark patterns
> deliberately making it a pain in the neck: One has to log into Copr every so
> often, and each time click a whole bunch of "Extend" buttons one at a time.
> There is no way to opt out permanently nor even for a longer time period
> than the default, nor even an "Extend All" button.

Have you considered to submit an RFE for this "Extend All" feature?
I think this convenience button (or even with API, if reasonably easy to
implement) sounds like an acceptable compromise to me.

Pavel

> The real issue still appears to be that "Disk storage is the commodity that
> incurs the highest cloud costs.", which means that cloud might not be the
> right technology to use here. Or at least the particular cloud
> implementation you are using (which last I checked was from Amazon). I
> understand that (also last I checked) the cloud infrastructure was donated
> to you for free. But that donation is not of much use if it does not include
> a workable amount of storage for something like Copr nor an offer to extend
> the storage at a reasonable price (which Amazon's list price is apparently
> not).
>
>
>         Kevin Kofler
>
>

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