Ian Pilcher <arequipeno@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > On 7/13/24 4:32 AM, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: >> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> writes: >>>>> The idea for DRM_PANIC is nice, but I worry about the impact of disabling >>>>> VT_CONSOLE. Plymouth is not used everywhere, e.g. what about cloud images >>>>> and such? Also, when debugging boot troubles, removing 'rhbg' and 'quiet' >>>>> are the often first steps. >>>>> >> >> I would expect that in these cases the user has access to a serial console >> to get the kernel log output. Or it's a common case to read the kernel log >> messages on cloud instances over VT/fbcon ? > > Why in the world would you expect this? > > It's been years (decades?) since most PCs have had a serial port. > Expecting people to have (or buy) and set up additional hardware in > order to troubleshoot boot issues is a terrible change, IMO. > I was referring to the cloud image that were mentioned in this thread to not install Plymouth. Is that also the case for the Fedora server image ? -- Best regards, Javier Martinez Canillas Core Platforms Red Hat -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue