On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 01:21:41PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 1:12 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 05:53:25PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > In order to enable DRM_PANIC, you need to disable VT_CONSOLE in the > > > kernel > > > > The idea for DRM_PANIC is nice, but I worry about the impact of disabling > > VT_CONSOLE. Plymouth is not used everywhere, e.g. what about cloud images > > and such? Also, when debugging boot troubles, removing 'rhbg' and 'quiet' > > are the often first steps. > > > > I cannot actually recall the last time when I had a kernel crash > > on any of my machines… It seems like we might be sacrificing debugability > > for a feature which would be used very rarely. > > > > Do we lose the serial console as part of this? Or is there a serial > console "thing" somewhere still? I think the serial console is not affected. The kernel Kconfig says: config VT_CONSOLE bool "Support for console on virtual terminal" if EXPERT depends on VT default y help The system console is the device which receives all kernel messages and warnings and which allows logins in single user mode. If you answer Y here, a virtual terminal (the device used to interact with a physical terminal) can be used as system console. This is the most common mode of operations, so you should say Y here unless you want the kernel messages be output only to a serial port (in which case you should say Y to "Console on serial port", below). If you do say Y here, by default the currently visible virtual terminal (/dev/tty0) will be used as system console. You can change that with a kernel command line option such as "console=tty3" which would use the third virtual terminal as system console. (Try "man bootparam" or see the documentation of your boot loader (lilo or loadlin) about how to pass options to the kernel at boot time.) If unsure, say Y. Zbyszek -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue