On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 8:52 AM Tim Landscheidt <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Solomon Peachy wrote: > > >> But with that knowledge comes the ability to work for a va- > >> riety of organizations who will spend many resources on > >> nudging their users to behave in a way that is not necessar- > >> ily in their best interests. > > > What does "a developer's ability to choose who they work for" have to do > > with end-user's ability to trust (and verify!) what data is being sent > > (or not) to Fedora? > > Developers might not want to work for a project any longer > that engages in behaviour that is perceived as being at odds > with why they chose to work for that project in the first > place. > > > Because what you're describing is a complete non-sequiter, and > > represents what has been the status quo for most of Humanity's history. > > No metrics necessary, because who cares what the peasants actually want? > > Looking at the proposed metrics > (https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/blob/master/f/notes/metrics-to-collect.md), > the "peasants" who do not form part of the majority of the > users might indeed worry about how bug reports, etc. are > processed if they (objectively) only affect x % of all in- > stallations. > My biggest issue with this is that it's only useful for Fedora Workstation. As it is currently designed, nobody else can benefit from it. I would have preferred a design that allows all Fedora variants to be able to offer this so that we have more holistic understanding and useful data for each team. :( Additionally, there's also the concern of whether the Red Hat Display Systems Team (fka Red Hat Desktop Team) will actually *do* anything once this data is available. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
