Thank you all for the feedback, I hear what you're saying and the best thing to do is to either scrap this initial survey and launch an updated one that reflects people's preferences to not have AI in certain parts of the project, or edit the ranking question to do this and make it more explicit on what people dont want, and not just what they do. I hope limesurvey allows for updating responses, but I'm not sure so I'll need to look into it and will come back to you with a (hopefully) improved survey soon.
The main purpose of this survey is to try to understand the sentiment of the Fedora community when it comes to having or using AI in the project, in order to create good guidelines for ourselves. We probably were trying to do too much too quickly with this initial go at an AI survey, so we're going to re-review and clean up the ranking question. For me and the other council members, it's more important to have our community be able to answer this survey comfortably and honestly than keeping this survey around that doesn't suit.
I appreciate your patience and genuinely thank you for your time, survey-fatigue is real so I'm glad to hear people are willing to re-complete a new one if we need one, that makes it feel like this is absolutely the right decision to make. My first option is to revise how we have structured the ranking question, and if that fails, I will just do a new survey altogether :)
Thanks folks, will be back to you soon!
Aoife
On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 5:57 PM Aaron Rainbolt <arraybolt3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 7/2/24 04:59, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> I guess how the question is phrased 'where do you feel like AI/ML has the
> best fit in Fedora' assumes the responder will choose where they feel it
> works best as top choice, and least-best (terrible English :) ) as last, so
> reviewers of the survey would likely assume 'oh the <something> option
> scored lowest, that means people really don't see AI/ML as suiting that use
> case so we shouldn't focus any energy on this option'.
>
> Like I said, it really is great feedback because the tone of the question,
> while deliberately trying to be positive because this is such a
> controversial topic in and of itself, didn't raise this issue of needing a
> 'doesn't fit at all' option when the survey questions were reviewed before
> going live, and that's something we can take forward for the contributors
> survey too for question structuring.
>
>
>
> The only reluctance I have on scrapping this survey and changing that
> question and then relaunching is that I don't want it to be spammy, because
> I'm sure a lot of folks have already completed the current one and there's
> still the contributor survey too to be launched, but if folks are having a
> terrible that with that question I'm particular, then I will and hope you
> give me another few mins of your day again to fill it back out :)
I personally would be happy to fill it back out if it were redone with room for more negative feedback. I filled it out and tried to be as optimistic as possible, but the fact that options like "virtual assistant in the OS" and "Copilot-ish tooling" were in the list of options was a bit horrifying to me and I would have liked to have put those in a "please don't" list. Some of the ideas in there like log analysis and moderation tooling seemed like a good fit for AI though (both of them if set up properly are areas where AI is less likely to get things wrong and where the consequences of it getting things wrong are lower, plus there's less legal risk with that sort of thing).-- Aaron Rainbolt
> Aoife Moloney
> Fedora Operations Architect
>
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