On 6/5/24 4:57 PM, Michael J Gruber wrote:
Doesn't this prove that it's really a VirtualBox problem, not a Fedora problem? I mean, we still want Fedora to run "everywhere", but the previous discussion indicated a "Fedora problem", and your observations put things into perspective.
Virtual machines have to sneak out of their virtual existence and interact with the real world now and then, or they would be pointless, so virtualization is ultimately a fudge. The graphics side of it being the most complex part of the fudge. I agree it is the task of the virtualization engine to keep up with guests developments and keep the fudge working, but Xorg works, and Wayland doesn't, and as a user I don't really care who is at fault. If there were a little more give and take there could be fewer problems. As I understand things, the rush to run Anaconda in Wayland is going to break workflows because many folks DL the Everything-Netinstall ISOs and use it to install anything. Since the move to Wayland is unnecessary, it seems like it could be delayed until Wayland is better supported by the wider ecosystem. Of all things, the installation mechanism should be chosen to be as broadly compatible with as much as possible, and frankly Wayland is currently not that. That said, if my whole life was Linux, I would move to a QEMU/KVM only workflow, but I still have one pesky Win box in my life that I can't get rid of (at work) so VirtualBox for me still makes sense. -- Ian Laurie FAS: nixuser | IRC: nixuser TZ: Australia/Sydney -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
