Jonathan Bennett via devel wrote: > the KDE SIG doesn't have a track record of handing those kind of bans out > flippantly. That is what they want you to believe. Sure, this used to be the case, a few years ago. The atmosphere on #fedora-kde IRC radically changed on 2020-07-13. Until then, it was possible on that chan(nel) to discuss things only partially on topic, such as packaging issues with packages in Fedora that may affect KDE Plasma users but are not part of the KDE SIG's offering, hardware makers' support or non-support of GNU/Linux, etc. On that day (at least in the few hours before I was kicked out of the chan), suddenly, everyone (not just me!) attempting to discuss something like this was immediately greeted with an "off-topic warning". But what the KDE SIG resents the most is criticism. You can see that in this thread, too. So what happened is that they took offense at the *tone* of the criticism (something they are attempting here too: Neal Gompa wrote: > Frankly, I'm disappointed in your response as well as the tone of you > [= Sérgio] and Kevin. ) because that is a much more socially acceptable way to silence criticism than to do it based on its content. What they ended up holding against me was my puns that "name-called" companies and software projects, such as "NoVideo" instead of "NVidia" and some admittedly more vulgar ones. It shall be noted that I tried really hard to not "name-call" people that way, only companies or projects like Firefox. This was claimed to be a violation of the Fedora Code of Conduct even though that was at that time not stated anywhere in the letter of the CoC: https://web.archive.org/web/20200803212051/https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ (The current Fedora CoC is much longer: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ and now also bans, among many other things, "personal campaigns against other organizations or individuals", explicitly covering "organizations". That wording did not exist in 2020.) So what happened on that day is that the KDE SIG instantly decided to ban me along with the general moderation crackdown, without even giving me a chance to adapt to the new strict moderation. (They only gave me the "choice" to leave "voluntarily", which I obviously refused.) They claimed that those had always been the rules (which was clearly not the case, the moderation before and on/after 2020-07-13 was completely different) and that I had been warned often enough (but those "warnings" never drew any sanctions with them before 2020-07-13, neither for me nor for anybody else who was "warned"). And when I tried to appeal the unfair ban to the Fedora Council, the KDE SIG demanded "Acknowledgement that your past behaviour was unacceptable" as a precondition to be unbanned, which I consider particularly unfair and unacceptable because it demands that I plead guilty to a wrongdoing that I do not agree having ever committed. The Council also marked the ticket private against my wishes in an effort to prevent the public from reading about the unfair banning practices in parts of Fedora. So now, 3½ years later, I am still banned, because the KDE SIG is unwilling to give its old grudges of the distant past an expiry date. Kevin Kofler -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
