On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 5:39 PM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Maybe we should have a flag in the src.fp.o package for the maintainer > to request a PR before committing to have a window for review, or like > me, the maintainer would like to not be bothered with things that > proven package can do by itself . > > Another thing is some proven packager which wants force the move to > autothings , which I don't like use it, ATM, because in my opinion > still have many problems . I think there is a difference between changes that have a formal change proposal (I am thinking something like removing make from the buildroot, which required many packages to add a BR: make, and for which PP's did a lot of the work for some packages), for which packagers were given a sufficient period of time to make the change on their own, and "philosophical"/"syntactical sugar" changes, such as the current "autothings", for which there is not an approved change for all packages (FD: I would object to making the "autothings" mandatory). If a proven packager changes the syntactical sugar without agreement by the current packager via a PR they have exceeded their mandate, and should be (first) asked to revert and formally apologize, and if they repeat such, removed from the PP list (fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me). FTBFS issues are, admittedly, complicated, but such updates SHOULD be via a PR. If a PP wants to claim they cannot follow that process, they need to demonstrate that a particular packager is not responsive (there is a process for that) rather then just deciding themselves it is too much trouble. -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue