Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

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Dne 26. 07. 23 v 21:11 Björn Persson napsal(a):
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
On 26/07/2023 11:04, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
You could, for example, buy a supported Logitech
Receiver
I don't recommend anyone to buy this proprietary hardware:
For years I tried to use Bluetooth mice, thinking a standard would be
preferable over a proprietary protocol. But Bluetooth never worked well
for me.


For years, I am using MS IntelliMouse Explorer for BT, which might be already ~15 years old and the only problem I remember is that once, I have forgotten that the mouse does not need to be paired so I struggled to install it. Other then that, no issues at all.


Vít


  It's not just mice. Everything I've tried to do with Bluetooth
has been unstable and unreliable. Eventually I gave up and concluded
that Bluetooth in Fedora is not a thing to rely on. The mice I've used
that connect to Logitech dongles have always been responsive and never
had any connection problems.

Mouse cables get in my way and disturb my work. As long as GUIs and web
programs require a mouse, I need a wireless mouse. Since Bluetooth is
out, Logitech is it.

I'd never use a wireless keyboard though. Whether Bluetooth or Logitech,
I'm not going to type passphrases over some iffy radio protocol using a
random number generator of unknown quality.

Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
And thanks to fwupd and Logitech's embracing it, we had the fix in a
very short time.
I never knew about it until now, because nothing notified me that a
firmware update was available. I have now enabled fwupd-refresh.timer.
I seem to get notifications only in SSH, not on the console, but that's
something at least. If it had been on by default, then it would probably
have been less than four years before I found out about those
vulnerabilities.

If the firmware files are properly authenticated, then I think
notifications about firmware updates should be enabled on all
installations.

Björn Persson

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