Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

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On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 10:59 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
<devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Only Dell, HP and Lenovo laptops are fully supported:
> https://fwupd.org/lvfs/devices/

Not just laptops, desktops/workstations too. In the last six years,
I've had five different models provided by my employers and they were
all fully supported through fwupd.


> fwupd is a great tool on laptops but completely useless on desktops
> since no motherboard vendors support it.

While most custom-built computers don't get full UEFI/BIOS updates,
some hardware manufacturers provide firmware files for components used
by other vendors in their boards. It's a far cry from being on par
with windows, but calling it completely useless is not true either.


> Maybe fwupd should start packaging UEFI BIOS images for desktop
> motherboards without vendor assistance? Images in BIN format can be
> easily downloaded from official websites or extracted from MS Windows
> packages.

That would require people volunteering to potentially brick their
machines in order to test the updates. If something goes wrong, the
equipment (and the knowledge) necessary to reprogram a chip is rather
scarce. I'm afraid the way forward is to _convince_ vendors to make
use of the service, starting with those who already have test
accounts.
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