On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 6:40 AM Jaroslav Mracek <jmracek@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hello Pavel, > > May I ask you to be more specific what is the problem with including references for issues? I am not sure whether your issues are related to issues referenced by Fabio or whether you have in mind something else. It will help us to prioritize the work. > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 10:50 AM Pavel Březina <pbrezina@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 7/13/23 23:59, Fabio Valentini wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I'm opening this thread to trigger discussion of the roadmap for DNF5 >> > in Fedora 39 - whether the switch still looks doable for this release, >> > or whether it should be reverted for F39 and postponed to F40. >> >> +1 for postponing. We have hit issues preparing CI environment via >> ansible and applying workarounds to make dnf5 work is imho not the way >> to go with such core tool. It should be there as opt-in so it can get >> tested but not default. > > > DNF5 was released in Fedora 38 where it replaced microdnf, therefore it was possible to test it in Fedora 38 Except dnf5 broke a number of microdnf usecases with low memory where microdnf worked [1]. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2214520 > Best regards > > Jaroslav > >> >> >> > This is also being tracked in a FESCo ticket: >> > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3039 >> > >> > The DNF5 Change was approved with the condition that bits that are >> > important to the distribution *MUST* work, but this does not seem to >> > be the case yet, six months after this was initially approved - >> > there's at least a few things that are still using dnf-3 or have been >> > broken since the switch to dnf5: >> > >> > - rawhide mock / koji builds still default to dnf-3 (DNF 4) >> > - Fedora CI has been partially broken since the switch to DNF5 (c.f. >> > [fedora-ci/general#416](https://pagure.io/fedora-ci/general/issue/416)), >> > making CI results for bodhi updates at least partially useless >> > - fedora-review has been broken since the switch to DNF5 (c.f. >> > [FedoraReview#482](FedoraReview/issue/482)), which is really hurting >> > the rate at which new packages are getting reviewed and added to >> > Fedora >> > - (not an exhaustive list, feel free to mention other things, I will >> > update the list to include them) >> > >> > We are now mere days before the Fedora 39 mass rebuild is scheduled to >> > start, so I think it's time to start talking about the roadmap for >> > getting missing pieces into place for Fedora 39, or if that is not >> > possible within this timeframe, whether the contingency mechanism >> > should be enacted. >> > >> > Fabio >> > _______________________________________________ >> > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >> _______________________________________________ >> devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
