I've been actually using dnf5 daily and while it's a little rough around the edges it seems usable enough. Here are some notes ... (1) The allow_vendor_change option makes things strange. I think this feature should be turned off (ie True) until it is fixed properly. https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/722 Also dnf downgrade seems broken, probably related to this. (2) Current bugs that stop fedora-review or mock from working: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2217496 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2217496#c5 (3) [superficial] I don't like the update summary that it prints as much as the old dnf one. The dnf5 one lacks "======" to delineate the headers from the list. Also the actual transaction lines are clipped so you cannot see the full versions, eg: [ 3/20] Upgrading nbdkit-server-0:1.35. 100% | 6.8 MiB/s | 228.4 KiB | 00m00s [ 4/20] Upgrading nbdkit-basic-filters- 100% | 31.2 MiB/s | 831.8 KiB | 00m00s [ 5/20] Upgrading nbdkit-basic-plugins- 100% | 32.5 MiB/s | 532.1 KiB | 00m00s ... [12/20] Erasing nbdkit-0:1.34.1-1.fc38. 100% | 16.3 KiB/s | 100.0 B | 00m00s [13/20] Erasing nbdkit-basic-filters-0: 100% | 14.2 KiB/s | 145.0 B | 00m00s [14/20] Erasing nbdkit-basic-plugins-0: 100% | 8.9 KiB/s | 64.0 B | 00m00s (4) It's a lot faster, great! Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-top is 'top' for virtual machines. Tiny program with many powerful monitoring features, net stats, disk stats, logging, etc. http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-top _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue