On 7/8/23 06:19, Michal Domonkos wrote: > On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 05:10:24PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: >> == Summary == >> >> The Red Hat Display Systems Team (which develops the desktop) proposes >> to enable limited data collection of anonymous Fedora Workstation >> usage metrics. > > One thing to realize here is that, no matter what collection method will be > used and how well it will be secured against potential malicious actors, the > reputation of Fedora *will* be harmed or at least tainted. And it won't be > easy to undo that. > > Even if we end up using mathematically sound techniques as per Differential > Privacy (as I suggested in my other reply), most user won't know/realize that > and will only see the words "telemetry" and "Fedora" alongside each other in > all those discussions and articles that will inevitably pop up as a result of > this change. > > I think the reputation of Fedora as a project shouldn't be taken lightly, > regardless of the actual implementation, and should be weighted against the > benefits that it would bring to the project. I'd say a huge portion of the > user base in Fedora consists of technical people who actively despise the > notion of any kind of "phone home" mechanism on their system (me included), and > for good reason. It's also evidenced by this thread so far. > > The problem, as noted in this thread multiple times, is that if we make this > opt-in, the usefulness would decrease to almost it being irrelevant. If we > make it opt-out, all the above applies (IMHO). > > Consider that even those big software companies couldn't prevent their products > from getting the bad reputation, despite some of them reportedly using > Differential Privacy (!). I 100% agree with this. Even if it can be done in a way that preserves user privacy, the risk to Fedora’s reputation is simply not worth it. -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
