On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 05:10:24PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > == Summary == > > The Red Hat Display Systems Team (which develops the desktop) proposes > to enable limited data collection of anonymous Fedora Workstation > usage metrics. One thing to realize here is that, no matter what collection method will be used and how well it will be secured against potential malicious actors, the reputation of Fedora *will* be harmed or at least tainted. And it won't be easy to undo that. Even if we end up using mathematically sound techniques as per Differential Privacy (as I suggested in my other reply), most user won't know/realize that and will only see the words "telemetry" and "Fedora" alongside each other in all those discussions and articles that will inevitably pop up as a result of this change. I think the reputation of Fedora as a project shouldn't be taken lightly, regardless of the actual implementation, and should be weighted against the benefits that it would bring to the project. I'd say a huge portion of the user base in Fedora consists of technical people who actively despise the notion of any kind of "phone home" mechanism on their system (me included), and for good reason. It's also evidenced by this thread so far. The problem, as noted in this thread multiple times, is that if we make this opt-in, the usefulness would decrease to almost it being irrelevant. If we make it opt-out, all the above applies (IMHO). Consider that even those big software companies couldn't prevent their products from getting the bad reputation, despite some of them reportedly using Differential Privacy (!). -- Michal Domonkos / RPM dev team / Red Hat, Inc. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
