On Friday, 07 July 2023 at 23:45, Björn Persson wrote: > Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > The problem is if users are expected to answer, they are going to > > probably answer No and it's effectively the same as an opt-in. But if > > we have a default value, users will be inclined to leave the default > > value. > [...] > > Remember, for avoidance of doubt, we will NEVER enable telemetry upload > > without the user's consent, which is indicated by either (a) not > > flipping the telemetry switch in gnome-initial-setup to the off > > position, > > In other words, you expect that many users will click "Next" without > thinking, and you intend to call that "consent". It's a popular tactic > to make people "agree" to things without knowing it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern#Privacy_Zuckering So, either explain the issue to users convincingly enough that they do click to enable the (off-by-default) telemetry (emphasis on benefits) or scrap the idea altogether. Don't be like Facebook. Regards, Dominik -- Fedora https://fedoraproject.org There should be a science of discontent. People need hard times and oppression to develop psychic muscles. -- from "Collected Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue