Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

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On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 05:10:24PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> Important process note: we are experimenting with using Fedora
> Discussion as part of the Changes process. Change announcements (like
> the one you are reading right now) will still be sent to the
> devel-announce mailing list, but the conversation about each change
> will take place on Fedora Discussion at
> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-request-privacy-preserving-telemetry-for-fedora-workstation-system-wide/85320

Why?  This was discussed a while back and the number problems with
discourse were covered, and to my knowledge none of them have been
fixed.

> == Summary ==
> 
> The Red Hat Display Systems Team (which develops the desktop) proposes
> to enable limited data collection of anonymous Fedora Workstation
> usage metrics.
>
> Fedora is an open source community project, and nobody is interested
> in violating user privacy. We do not want to collect data about
> individual users. We want to collect only aggregate usage metrics that
> are actually needed to achieve specific Fedora improvement objectives,
> and no more. We understand that if we violate our users' trust, then
> we won't have many users left, so if metrics collection is approved,
> we will need to be very careful to roll this out in a way that
> respects our users at all times. (For example, we should not collect
> users' search queries, because that would be creepy.)

This also keeps coming up and the answer is again, no!  There's no
such thing as anonymous data collection, people don't want it, it must
not be enabled by default (making it useless to you), it's probably
illegal in the Europe, so stop asking for it.

Rich.

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