On 6/26/23 16:12, Fabio Valentini wrote: > So all this considered, I'm not sure whether this change is actually > worth it, if tzdata databases of some form will likely be pulled into > installs anyway. Quoting the "Weak Dependencies Policy": "Weak dependencies allow smaller minimal installations while keeping the default installation feature rich." The change is worth it for minimizing container runtimes based on Fedora. Just for clarity, a default install will always have tzdata. > I'd rather have *one* tzdata that's up-to-date and used by everything > (for example, so Python and Ruby programs can actually agree what time > it is). I agree strongly with this statement. I have worked with Patsy over the years to remove as many bundled copies of out-of-date tzdata as we can find :-) It is important for consistency that all language runtimes have the same concept of time. This change request does not change that. With a weak dependency on tzdata the default installs will still have it, but someone making a specifically UTC-only container should be able to remove it. Python, and other language runtimes should be capable of getting to a point where they operate correctly with only C.UTF-8 (no language packs) and UTC (no tzdata). -- Cheers, Carlos. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue