Neal Gompa wrote: > I will also point out that CentOS Stream is perfectly suitable for > production use, and I would argue it provides a differentiated > experience in its own right: because CentOS Stream does not go through > certification work that locks on specific package versions, any and > all fixes done by Red Hat or community members are released > immediately after running through the gates and passing the tests at > the gates. That shortens the average TTL for non-critical/non-security > improvements from 6 months to a couple of weeks. Well, another aspect that I think was not mentioned so far in this discussion is that CentOS Stream has only half the support time of RHEL, which makes it much less useful for production servers (and less advantageous over competitors' offerings such as Ubuntu LTS, which offer a similar support period as CentOS Stream). This also means that if RH is telling rebuilds to do their own backports from CentOS Stream, that is only going to help them in the first half of the lifecycle. In the second half, there are no point releases, hence also no CentOS Stream that would prepare those. So, as I understand it, the security fixes are then only going to be published through the subscription channels. > Offhand, I know CentOS Stream 9 is available as an option in the > following VPS providers: > > * DigitalOcean > * Linode > * Vultr > * Hetzner > * Afterburst At least Hetzner also offers Rocky Linux and (recently added due to customer demand) AlmaLinux. If their customers were happy with CentOS Stream, they would not do that. (For the record, I happen to be one of those customers, for a small VPS (currently still running CentOS 7) and 2 domain names. That is the only involvement I have with Hetzner.) Kevin Kofler _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue