On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 6:09 PM Kevin Kofler via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Josh Boyer wrote: > > Agree with Matthew fully here. We've been working rather hard > > internally to adjust the development process for RHEL to be more > > collaborative and open than it ever has before. > > The *development process* is more open, but the production releases, which > is the only thing end users are interested in, are less open! > Actually, this is not true either. Since December 2020, Red Hat Enterprise Linux has added a number of avenues in which you can freely get it: 1. Individuals (16 entitlements, prod use permitted): https://developers.redhat.com/articles/faqs-no-cost-red-hat-enterprise-linux 2. Teams (mucho entitlements for companies, no prod): https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/10/access-rhel-developer-teams-subscription 3. OSS projects running their own infra (mucho entitlements, prod use permitted): https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/extending-no-cost-red-hat-enterprise-linux-open-source-organizations Is it everything that people need? No. Could they do more here? Absolutely. But their willingness to even do this should be applauded. I will also point out that CentOS Stream is perfectly suitable for production use, and I would argue it provides a differentiated experience in its own right: because CentOS Stream does not go through certification work that locks on specific package versions, any and all fixes done by Red Hat or community members are released immediately after running through the gates and passing the tests at the gates. That shortens the average TTL for non-critical/non-security improvements from 6 months to a couple of weeks. Offhand, I know CentOS Stream 9 is available as an option in the following VPS providers: * DigitalOcean * Linode * Vultr * Hetzner * Afterburst There are a lot of providers out there, and it's quite likely that even more ones that offer it. These are just the ones I've used or are aware of. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue