On Mon, 2023-06-05 at 16:49 -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > On 6/5/23 15:01, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2023-06-05 at 19:51 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > > > On 6/5/23 19:13, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > > > > > > Are you willing to do the packaging work? Asking upstream to create > > > > packages for every distribution is not reasonable. > > > > > > I would never want upstream to do packaging, as experience teaches, > > > they would certainly do it wrong. > > > Packaging and integration is a job for the distribution; it is their > > > added value. Otherwise, what's the meaning of a distribution, if > > > the system is composed by a minimal booting image on which you > > > add upstream generated blobs? > > > > This is really the heart of the question, and it's an interesting one. > > > > The idea that the distribution's job is to package up everything you > > might possibly want to use on your system is a very old one that goes > > back to the days before having an internet connection was the norm, let > > alone having several hundred megabits a second on tap at all times. > > “several hundred megabits a second on tap at all times” is completely > out of the question for the majority of the world’s population. I’m not > sure what the median bandwidth in the developing world is, but it is far > FAR less than that, not to mention often being metered. I knew someone was going to bring this up, but let's be realistic. The majority of the world's population does not use Fedora and is not involved in F/OSS development. I entirely support any and all efforts to improve that, but practically speaking, the people who build and use F/OSS mostly have very good internet connections. It is already, realistically speaking, very hard to use Fedora without one. -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
