On 6/5/23 12:13, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 6/5/23 09:35, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > >> "easily install from Flathub" brings us closer to Windows where you >> "easily" install software from random places on the Internet and they >> bring their own bundled outdated versions of libraries. Flatpaks have >> the added downside of not integrating well with the OS on top of the >> bloat they bring. No, thank you. I'd rather have proper well-integrated >> RPMs installed from official distro repos. > > Unfortunately very few people still understand the value of using > system libraries instead of bundling one hundred of them in each package. > The day a zlib vulnerability is discovered, instead of just updating > a 50k lib rpm (and restart apps, or maybe reboot), you have to update > 30 apps, each of them sized at 50MB, and including possibly badly patched > versions of the lib etc. (good luck knowing which app is affected, > when the fix will be available, ...). zlib should be added to the standard freedesktop.org runtime if it is not already included. > There is a disturbing trend to bundling everything, which comes from > environments with no shared libraries (Android) or from languages > that do not do dynamic linking (golang). Bundling is the norm on Windows and macOS, and is required on Android and iOS. Cross-platform projects like LibreOffice, Firefox, and OBS already have to deal with updating bundled dependencies. > Whatever is not in a rule-conforming rpm, is not correctly packaged, > in my opinion. Are you willing to do the packaging work? Asking upstream to create packages for every distribution is not reasonable. -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue