On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 08:56:57AM -0000, Aurelien Bompard wrote: > > So… I understand why this default was chosen, but I think that it'd be better > > to change the default to something narrow-but-reasonable, especially for > > new users. If I'm new to Fedora, I probably wouldn't know about fmn and > > it'd be hard to discover. But if I get even a few notifications, I'd be > > aware of it. I think a default of at least "My events" sent to IRC/Matrix > > would be reasonable. > > That's very interesting. I think we could go this route but there are a few things that need to be sorted out: > - the old FMN is still running, so we'll need to wait until we turn it off so that people don't get double notifications > - we could add a default rule such as "my actions" for new users, but users are only registering their email at account creation time, FMN won't know about Matrix or IRC at that point > - what about users who add a matrix / irc address later? Should it update the default rule? But only for users who recently created an account? > - some important apps are not using FMN, such as Bohdi, and external applications. I'm afraid we may spam new users with duplicate notifications that they do not expect. > - the FMN notifications are still a bit rough around the edges, I'd be more confident if we let the dust settle a little bit, and we sanitized duplicates and incomplete messages before we enable it for new users by default > > All this should be discussed in a ticket, do you mind opening one with your proposal here [1] ? FWIW, the old fmn listened for messages from fas2 that someone was added to the 'packager' group and if so, it created them an account and a default set of rules. Perhaps we could do something similar here? ie, default most users to no rules, but have a default set for packagers. But then we would have to decide what those default rules are. Anyhow, just some data from what the old one did. kevin
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