> So… I understand why this default was chosen, but I think that it'd be better > to change the default to something narrow-but-reasonable, especially for > new users. If I'm new to Fedora, I probably wouldn't know about fmn and > it'd be hard to discover. But if I get even a few notifications, I'd be > aware of it. I think a default of at least "My events" sent to IRC/Matrix > would be reasonable. That's very interesting. I think we could go this route but there are a few things that need to be sorted out: - the old FMN is still running, so we'll need to wait until we turn it off so that people don't get double notifications - we could add a default rule such as "my actions" for new users, but users are only registering their email at account creation time, FMN won't know about Matrix or IRC at that point - what about users who add a matrix / irc address later? Should it update the default rule? But only for users who recently created an account? - some important apps are not using FMN, such as Bohdi, and external applications. I'm afraid we may spam new users with duplicate notifications that they do not expect. - the FMN notifications are still a bit rough around the edges, I'd be more confident if we let the dust settle a little bit, and we sanitized duplicates and incomplete messages before we enable it for new users by default All this should be discussed in a ticket, do you mind opening one with your proposal here [1] ? Thanks! [1] https://github.com/fedora-infra/fmn/issues > IIUC, the old fmn will continue sending until either the user disables it in their > config or it goes offline (end of 2023?). We aim to shutdown the old FMN after F39. A. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue