On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 12:56:27PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Daniel P. Berrangé: > > > AFAICT, Fedora either keeps 32-bit time_t, or kills i686 for good. > > I agree with this position. > > For additional details, here is what I wrote in the other thread > (regarding defaulting time64): > > | That still needs some per-package work (mainly for scripting languages > | using FFI) because dlsym for gettimeofday etc. still find the 32-bit > | variant. There are various ways we can hack around that, I guess. > | > | Anyway, this dual ABI break (for off_t and time_t) needs to be proposed > | as a Fedora change, and we can discuss mechanics if Fedora wants to move > | in that direction. I think this is far from a given because a > | still-unknown amount of third-party software will break. GNUTLS, for > | example, used to have a fairly stable ABI: libgnutls.so.30 goes back a > | couple of years; I think it was part of CentOS 7 already. > | > | I think the first step is to decide if we want to do this. After that, > | we can discuss mechanics. For example, traditionally, ABI changes like > | this have not been implemented through build flags injection in Fedora, > | rather we updated the toolchain defaults. > | > | Needless to say, I have very little interest to work on this (I consider > | all this a pointless distraction, to be blunt), but I guess I can help > | with toolchain enablement. Yes, this whole episode makes me want to kill off i686 builds of everything I maintain, even when its not a leaf package. I only spent time investigating the root cause in gnutls because I saw valgrind warnings and wanted to be sure there wasn't a security flaw lurking that would impact x86_64 too. I have absolutely no interest in spending resources to retrofit 64-bit time_t to a build target that ceased to be relevant to the overwhealming majority of Fedora users many years ago. With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
