Re: gnutls time_t breakage on i686 (was: Re: qemu on i686)

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On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 02:35:11PM +0100, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 11:57:42AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > If any other Fedora maintainer looks after packages that use GNULIB,
> > then it is quite likely that they also need to add --disable-year2038
> > to their specfiles to avoid i686 brokenness when talking to any
> > non-glibc libraries that use time_t, or exposing a library using time_t
> 
> There are about 150 packages that provide "bundled(gnulib)". About 50
> have "lib" in their name. Just wondering, wouldn't it be less work to
> enable 64-bit time_t in the rpm CFLAGS, rebuild everything, and deal
> with a potentially smaller number of broken packages with the benefit
> of fixing Y2038?

The main reason for i686 continuing to exist at all in Fedora is to
facilitate running of externally distributed 32-bit apps (for example
wine/steam related). Those apps are all going to be built with 32-bit
time_t.

IOW if Fedora unconditionally rebuilt its world with 64-bit time_t, it
would be killing ABI compatibility with the very things that its i686
RPMs aim to support.

AFAICT, Fedora either keeps 32-bit time_t, or kills i686 for good.

With regards,
Daniel

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EncourageI686LeafRemoval

   "The remaining use cases of i686 packages (i.e. "multilib") for
    popular 32-bit applications should continue to work. For example,
    installing the Steam client (steam.i686), Wine, or other
    applications that require 32-bit compatibility libraries should
    still be possible, and not fail due to broken dependencies. "
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